Mari Boine – Sáráhka viina (Sáráhka’s wine)
Mari Boine, previously known as Mari Boine Persen, (born 8 November 1956) is a Norwegian Sami musician known for having added jazz and rock to the yoiks of her native people. Gula Gula (first released by Iđut, 1989, later re-released by Real World) was her breakthrough release, and she continued to record popular albums throughout the 1990s. Boine was born and raised in Gámehisnjárga, a village on the river Anarjohka in Karasjok municipality in Finnmark, in the far north of Norway. Her parents were Sami (Lapps). They made a living from salmon fishing and farming. She grew up steeped in the region’s natural environment, but also amidst the strict Laestadian Christian movement with discrimination against her people: for example, singing in the traditional Sami joik style was considered ‘the devil’s work’. The local school that she attended reflected a very different world from her family’s. All the teaching was in Norwegian. As she grew up she started to rebel against being an inferior Lappish woman in Norwegian society. For instance, the booklet accompanying the CD ‘Leahkastin’ (Unfolding) is illustrated with photographs with racist captions like ‘Lapps report for anthropological measurement’, ‘Typical female Lapp’, ‘A well-nourished Lapp’; and it ends with a photo of Boine herself as a girl, captioned ‘Mari, one of the rugged Lapp-girl types’ and attributed ‘(Photo: Unidentified priest)’. She was asked to perform at the 1994 Winter Olympics in Lillehammer, but refused <b>…</b>
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20 Responses to “Mari Boine – Sáráhka viina (Sáráhka’s wine)”
IrishPride on November 7, 2011
I am a Christian and I like breathing relaxation/meditation techniques. I’ve read that some of the meditations can be spiritual bad, like you don’t know what you are opening yourself up to, but what I do is more like a simple relaxation technique. I just close my eyes and focus on my breathe. It seems to help to relax me and clear my mind of it’s random rambling. Just give me your opinion. Thank you.
Jason0047 on November 7, 2011
Christians, what do you think about just simple breathing relaxation or breathing meditation?
“Breathing meditation” or “New Age meditation” is not a form of worship or spiritual practice approved of by God within His Word. Such practices are tied to Eastern mysticism; such as Tai Chi and Yoga.
“Christian meditation” as described to us within the Bible is something else entirely.
If your interested, check out these links here for more information…
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-meditation.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/Tai-Chi-Christian.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-yoga.html
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kayk♥ on November 7, 2011
Can anyone tell me why Christians shouldn’t meditate/do meditation?I mean the meditation that works on your mind not christian meditation/meditating on the bible that works on your soul.
Im referring to eg:progressive muscle relaxation,creative visualisations,focusing on the breath etc -that sort of meditation
Meditation has been scientifically proven to bring a calm state to the mind,to lower blood pressure and other beneficial physical effects but at the same time its said christians shouldnt do it(im christian) because it can lead away from Jesus(sorry for my lack of proper explanation/wording) or some even say be from Satan/not of God
Id appreciate your opinions
Mary
Thanks DavidG-in the bible where it says meditate on the word it means contemplate on the word of God not the types of meditation that im asking about.
Whoever translated the bible should have wrote contemplate not meditate-ie:turn the words over and over in your mind
Tommy on November 7, 2011
It seems to me the results of your meditation, however you define its purpose and reason, is up to you.
Who is telling you it is unchristian to meditate? Lots of people have little rules that they make up just to keep control over those who are thinking for themselves.
In Romania it is outlawed to do yoga because it is part of a foreign religion: Romania is Catholic. Is your information based on that kind of theology? Control the population and keep them from experiencing the whole God-given, wonderful world He created. Dumb people trying to make everyone dumber.
If you truly believe that God is everywhere you will loose your fear of Satan::::by definition, Satan can’t be where God is.
Bring God into your meditation. It is right and good that you take care of your body. Meditate that God is improving your body and mind. What could be better than that?
Namaste.
ashlee.animositY<3 on November 7, 2011
I find it very peaceful and calming to meditate by finding a soft,level, clear space, putting on some relaxing japanese (or any oriental flute music,really) music, and clearing my mind of everything that happened for that day. Is all meditation related to Buddhism and Hinduism and whatnot? I honestly do not know of a place in the Bible where God tells us we cannot meditate for a blissful and relaxed mind, as long as we keep our thoughts to Him and no other Gods…
admin on November 7, 2011
No I don’t think it is wrong at all. It is healthy and good to meditate for relaxation. It is soothing and refreshing. Our body needs this relaxation to reduce stress and have peace. Nothing to do with any other belief. That of coarse is their way and not a practice of what you are achieving.
Myaccounthasbeencompromised on November 7, 2011
There are many main stream meditations and most of them belong to religion such as Tibetan Buddhism or have an historical connection with religion. For example, TM is secular but is connected to Hinduism. There is also, of course, the Christian meditation.
Some scientists, such as Benson with its relaxation response protocol, have described meditations in scientific papers. Benson’s relaxation response is derived from TM, but there is no professionally trained teachers and some studies indicate that the benefits are different, which makes sense because the teaching is different. There are also many books on meditation.
The results of a given meditation vary from person to person, but studies show that, despite these variations, different meditations provide completely different results. The difference between two kind of meditations can be similar to the difference between just lying down and sleeping. Of course, the results of sleeping or lying down vary from person to person, but still these are clearly two different practices with different results and these differences are universal. Every one needs sleep. No one can replace sleep by just lying down (though there may very few exceptions). The point here is that it is not true that all meditations are similar and science can discover universal differences between different techniques.
So what is your position on this. Should we consider the different meditations scientifically as they can be currently learned, irrespectively of their connection with religion? Or should we reject any connection with religion and create our own personal meditation from books and scientific papers?
For those who want references, I would suggest that you do your own search in Google Scholar with the term “meditation”- avoid standard Google because then you will have all sorts of weird sites with no scientific value. In Google Scholar, you will see many sites with scientific research on mindfulness meditation and TM, the most studied. You will also find comparative studies. If you want my opinion, TM is the best, but please make your own evaluation.
NiteOwl,C.A.M.F. on November 7, 2011
I wouldn’t reject how to drive a car just because someone religious was teaching me,
one can get along with people of different world views and learn
Myaccounthasbeencompromised on November 7, 2011
There are many main stream meditations and most of them belong to religion such as Tibetan Buddhism or have an historical connection with religion. For example, TM is secular but is connected to Hinduism. There is also, of course, the Christian meditation.
Some scientists, such as Benson with its relaxation response protocol, have described meditations in scientific papers. Benson’s relaxation response is derived from TM, but there is no professionally trained teachers and some studies indicate that the benefits are different, which makes sense because the teaching is different.
So what is your position on this. Should we consider the different meditations scientifically as they can be currently learned, irrespectively of their connection with religion? Or should we reject any connection with religion and only consider meditations that can be learned in scientific papers? What is more scientific?
OK, I realize that I did not formulate the question correctly. I didn’t want to know whether meditation is connected with religion. Of course, traditional meditations are connected to religion. That is a fact. The question is whether we should reject these traditional meditations and create our own personal meditation based on what is described in scientific papers or books?
Turtlesallthewaydown! on November 7, 2011
Its also good for hypertension, and that seems to come from deep slow breathing.
Its good to learn traditional techniques, and take what is useful from them and discard the ‘stuff’ that comes along.
littlebirdy on November 7, 2011
You guys do realise that this fact is not confined to Christians dont you?? (This is in response to another user tonight stating Christians are healthier).
Any group who has a belief in any kind of higher power displays better health. Also, this has been observed in those who meditate and undergo hypnosis. When we pray, meditate or enter any state of deep relaxation our brain receives health benefits…but this is in NO WAY exclusive to Christians…through relaxation or meditation, atheists receive the same.
And yes, people benefit from the community often provided through church…as they do through other non-religious types of community…
do not be fooled…you dont have to be a Christian for this!!
…@ question….NO it has not. It has been proven ANYONE who meditites/prays is healthier. THAT is my point.
Ade…read any first year University level psychology text book and you will find references abound.
Dogstar…Burton, Western and Kowalski…Wiley. 2nd ed.2009.
I do not use their web site, but I believe there is one. As I said, any first year text book will help you.
Dogstar…same as above.
FYOP…my point exactly.
Ice on November 7, 2011
Having faith in a god YOU don’t believe in is just as beneficial. So is meditation, which is completely secular and requires no god. This means the whole thing is bogus. Just like a placebo effect.
And some of us don’t care that we just die…it’s not like it weighs us down. Even if it did I’d rather accept the truth and be troubled then live in a fantasy land and be happy.
We probably die earlier because our brains explode from all the stupidity.
And Primo, yes atheists go to hell and you go to heaven…or perhaps Jesus will be angry at you for displaying unchristlike arrogant qualities and attempting to insult people you should be concerned about helping. I’ll save you a place jackass.
EM!lYthEsTrANgE on November 7, 2011
I am a christian and have practiced yoga for meditation and relaxation purposes. However many christians believe this is a form of devil worship because it originated from the Hindu faith. Is this true?
AceLibrarian on November 7, 2011
Don’t worry about it. Continue your Yoga routine.
mouseandcat on November 7, 2011
I have a strong faith but a little troubled recently and wondered if I ought to learn relaxation and meditation. My GP seems to think so. I may have high blood pressure but do not know as I am so nervous the reading is always wrong. My GP knows this hence his suggestion. I am 66 and have RA and OA.
I have been given a chance to learn both relaxation and meditation. Fine in the weekday and on Sundays they have a service where it is a normal one and interdenominational but after is a medium.
Is there or could there be a conflict?
Any advice welcome?
If I just sat still and ignored the talk in order to attend the service would that matter. I have to travel in a car and so could not just walk out.
I was a trained preacher but now disabled and so no one comes to see me and I am lost. wanting to be loved and to join in again with worship.
I have problems can any one can make sense of what I have said and advice me?
The group is a developmental group for spiritual healing. hence the meditation and so on are on a weeknight and the service which is not compulsory is on a sunday evening.
lisabee on November 7, 2011
Yes, it is ok to meditate daily-no chanting to another deity though, Mediums, those with ‘familiar’ spirits, fortune tellers, etc are a big no, no.
The people in the church you attend are not doing their job. look for another church. Most of the church’s I go to would count it a blessing if a lay minister taught a class-provided they teach the church’s doctrines/guidelines. LB
admin on November 7, 2011
I was watching some videos on youtube about illuminati and the new world order. I started looking into Benjamin Creme, Blavatsky, Baily, etc; and came across lots of SUPER Christain material. I didn’t mind at first until they lumped in meditation with “New Age”, I can see how this lucifarian doctrine plays into society and secret societies. They also mentioned a “phenomina”, sleep paralysis. Then mentioned about how electricity rolling through the body is possession or something to that affect.
The funny thing is, Christians seem to be able to make some interesting pionts the mystery schools and I think about the Bohemian Grove. They also helped clear up some things about the “New Age” movement, which I think they erroniously put meditation, sleep paralysis, chakras, and energy with it. The tragedy of it is I think the same people who contrived the Bible and Jesus are the same people that created the lucifer worship. Just the fact that they worship lucifer, the exact polar oposite of the lamen’s God, when they (Those In Power) gave this knowledge to the masses. I know this is a giant manipulation.
It would seem like Christians would want to explore there humanity. Afterall God gave us conciousness, different levels of conciousness; I TOTALLY DIGRESS.
QiGong, Meditation were around before Christians. I just don’t see why they have to lump in legitimate things into Demons. I personally have experienced the sleep paralysis, over the years I notice these states happen when I’m in shape drifting off to sleep or waking from sleep. I’ve had the electricity roll through my body and have been visited by someone I knew during one of these.
I do not currently have them, I’m working on meditating but mostly getting back in shape. There is a direct correaltion between health and altered states.
I know for a fact I was scared but there wasn’t any demons, when I had those paralysis experiences I would always try and go along with it because I knew I was in a deep relaxation state and I could lucid dream or something cool.
I just feel like it’s a big joke for the Christians, they are exposing some real legitimate Evil in the world. Lucifarians do exist, the new age movement does exist, but Meditation and altered states of conciousness are not inherintly evil.
I’d like to here from people who meditate, new agers, Christians. I hope all of you have either meditated or have had similar experiences. I’m not New Age, I don’t like David Icke, and I deplore the lucifarians. I just want to know that I’m not the only guy who understands and believes in meditation, astral projection, and who are not complete followers in this channeling, aliens, maitryea bullshit
-PetitFantôme♐- on November 7, 2011
Well… Does it sound something new to the local denomination Christians here…? Their (Christian) meditation is a form of prayer in which a structured attempt is made to get in touch with and deliberately reflect upon the revelations of God.
The word meditation comes from the Latin word meditari which means to concentrate. Christian meditation is the process of deliberately focusing on specific thoughts (e.g. a biblical scene involving Jesus and the Virgin Mary) and reflecting on their meaning in the context of the love of God.
In 2003, in A Christian reflection on the New Age the Vatican announced that the “Church avoids any concept that is close to those of the New Age”….
Heu… After all it might seem not a part of the local denomination christians belief and practise here, if this question arises….
timberleigh on November 7, 2011
Is this woman going too far in protesting? I read in a local paper : Her son and his grade 5 school mates were taught a yoga position at school. She began to protest the teaching of religious practice at school due to the fact that yoga is apparently a religious Hindu methood of relaxation and meditation.
Do you think she was going too far in protesting this? Or is she right on the ball?
Personally I dont think there is an issue with teaching the yoga..as long as it is used as an exercise to promote strength and ability not religion. …although I dont condone prayer and the teachings of the “christian, Catholic..etc..god(s)” in school. Being pagan myself I dont believe that should be taught in schools either.
Religion I believe should be taught at home.
Back to the question..
Do you think this woman is going too far?
DaveakaSpiderMonkey on November 7, 2011
I believe the woman has the right to protest about it but she must keep it in prespective. I believe everybody’s rights must be respected but the line must be drawn somewhere.If it keeps up, the government will get more involved and censorship is getting closer and closer to reality.